Hey Jagor look

[Blake (Magickz)]

www.abovetheignorance.org

HA!

[Deliverence (SilentPlague)]

OOOOo Are we bringing back this fun thread again.

IT was some of the most ignorance trying to be intelligence i have ever read .

Heres hoping

[Diomedes]

OOOOo Are we bringing back this fun thread again.

IT was some of the most ignorance trying to be intelligence i have ever read .

Heres hoping

I, personally, am looking forward to padding my post count.

[Alex (Riptearkill)]

im sure most people have no qualms about the danger of the drug, people drink alcohol and smoke daily which i agree is probably more hazardous to your health. I just don't like the idea of a reason/rationality altering substance that impairs your ability to think

[Donnie (Arne)]

I know for one, after reading the link.  I am going to burn my hemp made bra!

[Raka]

removed by raka because magickz posted


he just wont get my P.O.V

[Donnie (S3 / Jagor)]

Magickz, you're an idiot.

Did you know that every drug ever made illegal in the U.S. was made illegal directly as a result of racism?  Did you also know that caffeine was on the list to be outlawed and at the last minute was replaced with cocaine to satisfy a special interest group from the southeast.

The fact that you obsess enough to STILL be coming to our forums posting this special interest bullshit shows that weed is the least of your mentally debilitating handicaps.

[Raka]

<--didnt even read the website


<--didnt even look at who started the thread


<--should remember to reply to things in a serious way

[Stanzx]

Magickz, you's be one ignorant mother f-...go smoke a joint and walk onto the highway.  Let's see your improved sensory perception get your ass outta that situation.

[Raymond (Hodges)]

Magickz, you's be one ignorant mother f-...go smoke a joint and walk onto the highway.  Let's see your improved sensory perception get your ass outta that situation.

I had my calf muscles shortened to theoretically increase my jumping ability so I don't need weed.

[Raka]

STILL be coming to our forums posting this special interest bullshit shows that weed is the least of your mentally debilitating handicaps.

i was thinking for quite a while, but i cant top this one.

jagor youre a champion.

[Deliverence (SilentPlague)]

Posting in a Legendary thread inspired by a Legendary thread inspired by a legendary dumbass ..............

[Alex (Riptearkill)]

STILL be coming to our forums posting this special interest bullshit shows that weed is the least of your mentally debilitating handicaps.

i was thinking for quite a while, but i cant top this one.

jagor youre a champion.

i bet it wasnt under the effects of anything
but in response to what you said, most people drink red bull etc. for the energy i.e. they need to study, not because it gives them a different sense of being (at least from the people i've seen) what i have a problem with are the people who seek those things for the mind altering affects not those who might experience it as a side effect

[Donnie (S3 / Jagor)]

To follow up, not that it is needed, on my ORIGINAL comment on the ORIGINAL thread that there hadn't been enough research to have a full understanding of long term effects of mind altering substances...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/07/27/marijuana.psychosis.ap/index.html

So to reply to your original post which was meant for me...  Enjoy posting from the asylum...  HA!

[Gauner]

Some people just don't have lives

[Justin(spec!aL.K+)]

I don't even know this guy...
but apparently he's for the argument that weed is good for you. If it's illegal, it's illegal for a reason fuck brain...
GAWD![Napoleon Dynamite Status]

[Donnie (S3 / Jagor)]

I don't even know this guy...
but apparently he's for the argument that weed is good for you. If it's illegal, it's illegal for a reason fuck brain...
GAWD![Napoleon Dynamite Status]

http://www.laggaming.com/smf/index.php/topic,2639.0.html


It's worth the time to read... but that's the original post.

[Blake (Magickz)]

lmao I wanted to find out how many ppl would reply just by me posting this website, some guy on a forum I read that is retaliating against www.abovetheinfluence.com which sates many biased facts about marijuana, and most of the test experiments they use involve smoking the stems, and seeds, when weed smokers smoke the buds of the plant which is not as toxic. Jagor I already stated that marijuana was made illegal because of racism in the last topic. And thats interesting about the caffeine part cus that just shows how the government would want to ban such a simple drug, I knew it was addicting but didn't know that it was almost made illegal.And to your article about psychosis, saying that I am going to be in the asylum because I smoke weed is ignorant. A large percentage of alchoholics have developed psychosis because of addiction. Marijuana's percentage of become psychotic is miniscule compared to alcohol. But a large amount in the U.S. drink alcohol on a daily basis. So should alcohol now be considered a drug that is labeled for making people crazy?

They found that people who used marijuana had roughly a 40 percent higher chance of developing a psychotic disorder later in life. The overall risk remains very low.

1 in 100 people develop a psychosic in life. thats a 1% chance. Now 40% of 1% is .4. I now have a .4% chance more to develop a psychosis later in life.

"One in 100 people had a chance of developing severe psychotic illness. That risk increased to 1.4 in 100 if they had ever smoked cannabis." Quoted from the same issue but different article.

"For example, Zammit said the risk of developing schizophrenia for most people is less than 1 percent. The prevalence of schizophrenia is believed to be about five in 1,000 people. But because of the drug's wide popularity, the researchers estimate that about 800 new cases of psychosis could be prevented by reducing marijuana use."

Notice how he said 800 new cases, that means 800 new people, but wait he didnt say 800 cases would come up in the next few years, or decades, or generations.Now that means 800 people in the world that smoke weed are gunna be psychotic later in life. Now Jagor I got an equation for you since your so good at looking up info on the net. Tell me what percentage 800 would be compared to the number of people that smoke weed in the world. Is that really a large percent of users that will develop a psychosis?

I bolded and underlined schizophrenia and psychosis because they used psychosis in a quote about schizophrenia and it can be confusing.

[Donnie (S3 / Jagor)]

I anxiously await your emphatic entry into the Darwin awards.

[Gauner]

I still fail to understand why you continue to post here..... it means less time smoking your miracle drug buddy.....

[Deliverence (SilentPlague)]

I anxiously await your emphatic entry into the Darwin awards.

Winner !!!

[Blake (Magickz)]

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6798



According to news from the Associated Press and others, investigators at London's Kings College reported that the administration of doses of synthetic THC temporarily interfered with activity in the inferior frontal cortex, a region of the brain associated with paranoia, while administration of the non-psychoactive compound cannabidiol (CBD) stimulated relaxation. The reports go on to suggest that chronic use of cannabis may precipitate various types of mental illness and cite a separate unpublished study indicating that cannabis use may exacerbate symptoms of schizophrenia.

Such clinical findings and suggestions are not new. Scientists have known for decades that THC is psychoactive and that peak blood levels of its primary active metabolite 11-OH-THC are occasionally associated with temporary feelings of dysphoria, paranoia, and even panic attacks.  (These events, when documented, typically occur in cannabis naïve users.)

Conversely, scientists have also been long aware of CBD's anxiolytic and anti-psychotic effects. In fact, many experts speculate that it is the lack of CBD in Marinol (the synthetic THC oral prescription pill) that is responsible for the drug's enhanced psychoactivity.  By contrast, CBD occurs naturally in whole-plant cannabis, and is believed to modify and/or diminish some of the psychoactivity associated with THC when cannabis is inhaled.

Fears that chronic cannabis use may be positively associated with various mental illnesses, particularly schizophrenia, are also long-standing. However, a recent meta-analysis investigating the use of cannabis use and its impact on mental health reported that those who use cannabis in moderation, even long-term "will not suffer any lasting physical or mental harm. ... Overall, by comparison with other drugs used mainly for 'recreational' purposes, cannabis could be rated to be a relatively safe drug." 1

Cannabis In Context

The phrase "relatively safe" is appropriate in any discussion regarding cannabis and mental health. No substance is harmless and in many cases, the relative dangers of a drug may be increased or decreased depending on set and setting. Cannabis is no different.

There is limited data suggesting an association, albiet a minor one, 2-3 between chronic cannabis (primarily among adolescents and/or those predisposed to mental illness) and increased symptoms of depression, psychotic symptoms, and/or schizophrenia. 4-6 However, interpretation of this data is troublesome and, to date, this observation association is not well understood. 7-9 Identified as well as unidentified confounding factors (such as poverty, family history, polydrug use, etc.) make it difficult, if not impossible, for researchers to adequately determine whether any cause-and-effect relationship exists between cannabis use and mental illness. Also, many experts point out that this association may be due to patients' self-medicating with cannabis, 10 as survey data and anecdotal reports of individuals finding therapeutic relief from both clinical depression and schizotypal behavior are common within medical lore, and clinical testing on the use of cannabinoids to treat certain symptoms of mental illness has been recommended. 11
 
Most recently, a large-scale study by investigators at London's Institute of Psychiatry reported that those patients diagnosed with schizophrenia who had previously used cannabis did not demonstrate exacerbated symptoms of the illness compared to age-adjusted controls who had not used cannabis.  "This [finding] argues against a distinct schizophrenia-like psychosis caused by cannabis," they concluded.

Investigators in the study did not address whether cannabis consumers had greater odds of contracting schizophrenia when compared to otherwise matched controls who did not have a history of cannabis use.  However, a 2006 review by Britain's Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) previously concluded, "For individuals, the current evidence suggests, at worst, that using cannabis increases lifetime risk of developing schizophrenia by one percent."

Nevertheless, until this association is better understood, there may be some merit to various government warnings that adolescents (particularly pre and early teens) and/or adults with pre-existing symptoms of mental illness refrain from using cannabis (and/or other psychoactive substances), particularly in large quantities. This statement, however, is hardly an indictment of cannabis' relative safety when used in moderation by adults or an endorsement of the federal government's efforts to criminally prohibit its use for all Americans. If anything, just the opposite is true.

[Gauner]

Hey! no one cares!

[Blake (Magickz)]

Hey! no one cares!

obviously you do for looking at this thread.

[Raka]

Its not 'obvious'.

Gauner clearly got excited by a new post, went to see what it was all about, and, upon discovering that he didnt care, he sought to inform you that you may refrain from continued infliction of yourself, upon us.

[Gauner]

Its not 'obvious'.

Gauner clearly got excited by a new post, went to see what it was all about, and, upon discovering that he didnt care, he sought to inform you that you may refrain from continued infliction of yourself, upon us.

read my mind raka

[Blake (Magickz)]

Raka i just wanted to answer his question with a smartass remark, I realize it isn't obvious that he would emotionally "care" for a topic talking about a drug he obviously loves to propose stereotypical comments about, and gauner this is a forum, forums are meant to have posts and threads. I'm trying to have a legit debate with jagor upon the topic of Marijuana. I don't think your name has been mentioned, but yet you post random comments that don't contribute to the topic.

Some people just don't have lives

I know a crack/coke/codine/pothead who has straight A's and is getting a full ride to a college, so just because somebody does drugs doesnt mean they don't have lives. (He recently quit crack because he realized if he continued he would ruin his chances for college)

I still fail to understand why you continue to post here..... it means less time smoking your miracle drug buddy.....

It's called multi-tasking.

Hey! no one cares!

It is a topic about marijuana so i'll post about marijuana.

If your going to post, start actually debating over the topic of the thread, marijuana. Not meaningless ignorant comments that serve no purpose. But then again this is a forum, so you can post even if no1 cares.

[Andrew (I2ed3ye)]

Hmm.. a friend's Dad in grade school died from cancer from smoking Marijuana.  And a few kids in high school committed suicide who often smoked pot.  No "scientific research" (read: quacker jacks) will ever be done enough to know the long term effects of a human who smokes pot.  They don't even list what species of Marijuana they test half the time.  Who uses it, their lifestyle, their mind, their organs, the way they use it, how often they smoke.  Scientific testing has never, ever been the be all and end all of fact-finding.  Lots of personal experience and documentation provide us with the true answers we seek.  And anyone who's had friends that smoke a lot of weed knows that it's definitely not good for everyone.  It at least causes bad odors and empty wallets.   

[Gauner]

Raka i just wanted to answer his question with a smartass remark, I realize it isn't obvious that he would emotionally "care" for a topic talking about a drug he obviously loves to propose stereotypical comments about, and gauner this is a forum, forums are meant to have posts and threads. I'm trying to have a legit debate with jagor upon the topic of Marijuana. I don't think your name has been mentioned, but yet you post random comments that don't contribute to the topic.

Some people just don't have lives

I know a crack/coke/codine/pothead who has straight A's and is getting a full ride to a college, so just because somebody does drugs doesnt mean they don't have lives. (He recently quit crack because he realized if he continued he would ruin his chances for college)

I still fail to understand why you continue to post here..... it means less time smoking your miracle drug buddy.....

It's called multi-tasking.

Hey! no one cares!

It is a topic about marijuana so i'll post about marijuana.

If your going to post, start actually debating over the topic of the thread, marijuana. Not meaningless ignorant comments that serve no purpose. But then again this is a forum, so you can post even if no1 cares.

You know why I'm not going to debate with you over this topic? Here are a few reasons

1.) Your way 2 damn young to talk any sense in to....this has been proven in your previous posts
2.) I don't wanna waste my time debating with someone who obviously will never care what I have to say (which again, has been shown in your previous posts)


As far as my "random posts that don't contribute to the debate" last time I checked this was a gaming website...if you'd like to debate for months over a drug being harmful (or not)/ why it should be made legal/ or whatever the hell else you want achieve I suggest you do it in a more far reaching way (contact your congressman and see where it gets you or maybe join a forum where someone actually gives a crap)

Lastly, don't make this personal unless you seriously want to start something you won't win.

[Mike (Polahh)]

AND YET ANOTHER LEGENDARY DRUG DEBATE HAS BEGUN!!!!!!