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« on: April 29, 2006, 10:18:41 PM »

Before I begin, this post is directed towards the guild (obviously) and Shathar. 

Most of you know or at least are somewhat aware of Shathar leaving.  Whether or not you knew, I along with Stanzx, were responsible for Shathar leaving.  It was my idea to get him to leave, but I went so low to make Stanzx carry out my orders.  Yes Stanzx could have said no, but we were in full agreement on Shathar leaving.  Now, I could try and defend myself, but it's not why I'm here.  I'm here to apologize for what I've done.  Stanzx will make his own apology. 

Shathar....  I didn't know him.  Infact, I've never said anything to him.  The only times I was around him were few and far between and in that time I formed a dislike for him.  I never gave him a chance.  And honestly, that's the kind of person I am.  When you get right down to it, what I did was reeeally shitty.  Now, that's not to say I don't feel bad for doing for doing this.  I don't want to be viewed as a bad person because I do feel like a major jerk, but I am.  And to top it all off, I did this to someone over a GAME.  Question my character, please do so.  I do.  As I'm typing this, it's hard to keep my thoughts in order because I don't know what to say.  Saying I'm sorry isn't enough for what damage was caused.  Then I'm worried about not sounding sincere while getting this all out into the open.  This virtual text can't carry over to you, the reader, of how I feel about this whole dilemma. 

I learned that many people wanted the two of us kicked out of the guild and for good reason.  I never thought myself as a really likeable kind of guy, but I never imagined that I would have people who wanted me out.  Shathar probably didn't think he had enemies in the guild, I mean who really does?  Though I think it's alright to not be really fond of someone, it crosses the line when you plot against another individual.  I crossed this threshold and went above and beyond it.  Suddenly I was knee deep in my own problems, and faced a /gkick.  If I were in a leadership position, I would have kicked that member.  I wasn't and yes this won't satisfy some members, but I beg of you to give me another chance.  I don't ever expect to gain back full trust but enough so people can view me as a *decent* person.

I've rambled on long enough and I haven't apologized.  Guys, I'm sorry.  It was a jerkoff move that I pulled... I was on a personal vendetta against Shathar for no reason other than to make myself feel better.  It didn't though.  When I was pulled aside and talked too, I wasn't yelled at.  I was just talked to, but the way Jagor and the rest of the leadership made it out to be, I felt even worse.  Yes, they were mad.  But they were also disappointed in me, which is to me, very hurtful.  Shathar, if you do read this, I am very sorry.  I do want your forgiveness because I know I wont get much from most people.  And I apologize to the members of LaG.  I'm not a LaG member.  People in LaG don't do this crap to others.  So officially/unofficially I consider myself as an ex-member working his way back to where he once stood. 

I conclude this formal apology with the following:  Don't do this to people, you won't get anywhere.  And you only cause more harm to yourself in the end.  I love this guild, but my actions have proved to you that I don't give the respect that everyone deserves. 

Colton (Franzx)
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2006, 12:55:10 AM »

Franzx, i dont know which things crossed your head that makes you to take the decition of give him to leave. I dont know why did you do that, and why can you hate a guy only for listen/reading what he said. I feel so bad for this situation, cause i really like your person and your way to play.

Cya soon in game.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2006, 11:02:49 AM »

From a guild perspective, apology accepted.  Franzx will continue on as a LaG member in good standing once the terms we dicsussed are met.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2006, 04:23:49 PM »

Jagor, I'll never be able to be in good terms with anyone again.  You just don't give me a suspension and de-rank me and then things go back to normal.  Not to mention the fact that most of the guild leadership really wants nothing to do with me.  I won't leave LaG unless I'm either told to leave or kicked out.  I'll still be an active member once I serve my time, but I'm certainly going to avoid stepping on anyone's toes.  No one should take this post the wrong way, because that's not what I want.  If you do though... then I don't know what to say.  You guys are great and I'm sorry for causing so many headaches.
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2006, 09:10:54 PM »

Well Franzx...  We are pals, and even tho you acted upon feelings, Im sure your friends will still be your friends.  I have met people in real life that I took an instant dislike for, its my gut instinct.  Wether I know of a reason, or not, it is there.  Im sure many of us have felt the same way.  Personally I believe you went beyond what "politically correct" people would have done (I just tend to avoid, and ignore), but as they say, we are not perfect.  You did a naughty, and I am sure that the leaders gave you your penence.  Serve your time, enjoy the game, and remember what you did, and how you can gave a personal life experience from it.  Hanging/playing with you in WoW has been fun, and you don't seem like a bad person, so sh*t happens.  Feel bad for what you have done, remember how wrong you felt it was after the fact, and move on...  Im sorry it happened, but its over now, you were spoken with, and lets just get back on track.

Lyle  (btw, this is just how I feel about the subject).
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2006, 12:02:37 AM »

Wise words Milambermoooooo, that whay i tried to say, but english words and me have a bad realtionship Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2006, 10:44:01 AM »

 Smiley    <3  Franzx!     See ya in game.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2006, 02:04:16 PM »

that was....touching  Cry
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2006, 03:01:05 PM »

This stuff happens.  Embarrassed

Jagor, I'll never be able to be in good terms with anyone again.  You just don't give me a suspension and de-rank me and then things go back to normal.  Not to mention the fact that most of the guild leadership really wants nothing to do with me.  I won't leave LaG unless I'm either told to leave or kicked out.  I'll still be an active member once I serve my time, but I'm certainly going to avoid stepping on anyone's toes.  No one should take this post the wrong way, because that's not what I want.  If you do though... then I don't know what to say.  You guys are great and I'm sorry for causing so many headaches.

I'd think that we can all put this behind us in time.
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